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just got back from a 10-day trip to ireland.
quaffed a pint and stole the pint glass from the guinness storehouse. kissed the girl on the cliffs of moher (though they seemed a bit less with retaining walls). photographed some dingle "berries" on the dingle peninsula. found one of 2 restaurants open in kinsale this time of year. kissed the blarney stone and got the gift of scab (not really, but i did catch a cold or sinus infection or some such--probably not from the blarney stone). threw rocks from rosslare harbour in the direction of the british. hopscotched through the craggly burren. walked around a fairy ring. and took a ferry to kerry after a night in doolin. mistook bunratty castle for eurodisney. almost drove us into a ditch on a rural road one dark and foggy night. thoroughly saturated my clothes with the smell of burnt turf/peat. found that the irish are much fonder of rugby than football/soccer. the food wasn't great, sad to say--so thank arthur for the guinness. couldn't bring myself to try chinese with a side of french fries. i partly kid about it all.
the weather cooperated nicely--just one rainy afternoon, a couple of overcast days, and sunshine the rest of the trip.i hadn't realized that ireland was so far north--i suppose it surprised me because the weather was milder than here at home. but the sun never seemed to make it very high in the sky. i imagine it's brighter in the summer, and even greener. but this time of year, well, i don't think i could ever call ireland my home. there's not enough sun, and that depressed me a bit.
it's neither here nor there as far as spectacular scenery--beautiful places, but nothing spectacular. dublin and limerick were cities like so many other european cities (not like paris). the countryside was rural, like so many other european countrysides (not like the alps). but the villages and towns were quaint, of course.
i did enjoy the folklore and culture. i very much enjoyed learning about irish history, especially about tensions in the north.
on a scale of 1 to 10, i rate it a 6. i imagine it much prettier in the summer, and likely more interesting if you're exploring your own heritage. (so a possible 8 or 9 for others.) |
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My sons went last summer, it was a completely different experience for them. I know that it made a huge difference in that they were able to stay with our relatives in Belfast, who in turn took them everywhere. They saw all the places you mention here, plus for them there was the added bonus of being able to drink in the pubs (they passed for 18, apparently) they changed their reservations mid-week so they could stay longer so as not to miss a championship football game that by all accounts was thrilling (so you might be wrong on that) went to a disco (where we later learned) they were surrounded by girls because of their blonde surfer boy looks, and so quite naturally - they're both counting the days till they can go back. |
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| i'd expect summer to be different |
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days are longer, more sunlight/daylight. and i can certainly see how different it'd be if i were 18-ish.
as for soccer, of course, they were also in belfast. on the flight back, i was reading "how soccer explains the world". the author wrote a bit about the glasgow rangers (predominantly protestant supporters) v. celtic fc (predominantly catholic supporters, with a strong irish following) (both of these teams are in the scottish league) and how these teams act as symbols for the protestant/catholic tensions that exist in scotland and northern ireland. makes sense that there's a good soccer following in northern ireland. (i suppose it's probably not really so different in the republic. zb can probably correct me about my superficial pronouncements here.)
but i'll tell you, i had a heck of time finding team jerseys to purchase for any of the irish league teams. it was all rugby jerseys.
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| Re: i'd expect summer to be different |
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went in june 2 years ago. gorgeous weather and sunlight till nearly 11pm. geologically, ireland is the right side of one of the appalchian orogonies (caldonean, i believe) and rather similar to new england/canadian maritime provinces. the younger mountain ranges tend to rate "spectacular", whereas the ancient and greened over hills get labeled quaint. still, i found glendalough pretty spectacular. didn't get to explore the burren, but i want to. looks fascinating. thoroughly enjoyed the ruins. especially the newgrange and knowth barrows; granted being able to see them from window of the B&B we stayed in was damn cool too.
as with everything, what you get is dependant upon what you expect. |
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| You went to Europe at current exchange rates? |
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Man, you MUST be doing well.
I've given up European travel for a while. And it makes me very sad -- I was hoping for Greece this year. Instead, we're going to Vieques, the island the Navy used to bomb. Can't wait. (NEED VACATION BADLY!!!) |
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| Re: You went to Europe at current exchange rates? |
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What I want to know is: where's my lousy T-shirt?
This year, I cashed out my vacation days to pay for a week of day care. There's just something fundamentally fucked up about that.
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| i wasn't happy about the exchange rate, but it's cheaper than london. |
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besides, we managed to do the trip for about $2,000 each, so it wasn't horrible. |
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Truly. Vacay is a necessity, not an option. Do you at least have an FSA account? |
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| Re: i wasn't happy about the exchange rate, but it's cheaper than london. |
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i spent much more, but mostly because hertz charged me 1000 euros, just because i hit a bus. |
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Yeah, it's really been bothering me (can you tell?). What I can't understand is why I didn't take the week and, if nothing else, just spend it at home babysiting.
Twiff, that's just awfully inconsiderate of the Hertz people. |
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- a story from a long time ago.
We took the train from Paris to Strasbourg, and spent a few nights in the Alsatian capital - home to the world's most other-worldly cathedral.
We then rented a car to drive through Alsace on their famous "route du vin".
The car rental agency was located in the train terminal which was in the heart of the city. It was a Renault Manager - aptly named because when it went uphill, it barely managed. I had to get an automatic car, because, well, I don't drive standard.
We get in the car having lugged our luggage quite some distance. We are in an enormous underground parking lot. This is some 20 years ago.
Try to start the car. It won't quite start. Try 12 times or so. No luck. Get out, walk back to the car rental agency booth some ten minutes away. I tell him my troubles. He says it's impossible. We discuss it back and forth. Then an idea hits him - he says, "pull the choke". I say, "What's a choke?"
So I go back to the car and pull the choke. It starts - funny so far, eh? We pull out of the parking spot and try to find the exit. We pull up to a booth. There is no one there. It looks like it's automated, and we haven't been given anything to get out of the place. Back I go to the parking space and back to the car rental spot. He's surprised to see me.
He tells me to do it again - the guy manning the booth was on the toilet.
Now this guy had given me explicit written directions as to how to get out of the city and onto the route du vin.
We follow them to the letter. About 7 lines down he tells us to take a certain exit from the highway we are on. We come to the exit, but it turns out there are two exits, one to the left and one to the right. We choose the one to the right. They both had the same name - how else to decide?
We decided wrong. We end up on a road that ends at a hospital. We turn around - back to the highway. As it turns out the only thing you can do is get back on the highway in the direction of Strasbourg. We get back in Strasbourg. We get lost. A policeman yells at us for driving in the pedestrian area. We get back to the highway. Better half says we go in a certain direction. 20 minutes later we realize we are going in the wrong direction. We turn around.
I've had, by this time several heart attacks.
We finally get back on the highway and back to the place where we went right instead of left. We correct this error. 50 yards later we are totally lost. We are in an industrial area with grapes nowhere to be seen. I say something about my navigator and get smacked.
We stop at a factory and ask for directions. The guy gives up trying to explain it to us and decides we should just follow him in his car. We are grateful. We had hoped to be on the route du vin by 10 a.m. It's 3 p.m. by the time we make it. Five hours of terror, rather than terroir.
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| let's blame it on the fact that they drive on the wrong side of the road |
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i had loads of fun with that.
the best was the night we drove from kinsale to ennisshannon (where we stayed at a creepy farmhouse b&b). on the map, it looked like it would only be about 20 minutes from kinsale. but it was all windy, unlit country roads. i suppose if there was one thing that impressed me about driving in ireland, it'd be the fact that roads and destinations are all really well-marked. we didn't get lost even once.
except for the aforementioned creepy farmhouse--mostly creepy because it was at the top of a hill, the place was poorly heated, our room was pink from floor to ceiling, and the woman who ran it smelled of old people--the other b&bs were fantastic. in rosslare harbour, we stayed at one that overlooked the irish sea, with access to the beach and horseback rid. there was one just outside of ennis whose owner was the chattiest, most delightful woman we met on the trip. the one just down the road from miltown malbay (where my gf's great grandfather grew up) was part b&b, part gourmet restaurant. needless to say, that one had a decent breakfast.
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| Re: let's blame it on the fact that they drive on the wrong side of the road |
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i suppose if there was one thing that impressed me about driving in ireland, it'd be the fact that roads and destinations are all really well-marked. we didn't get lost even once.
so long as you knew the names of all the towns between where you were and where you were going, yes. though, i think we got lost only twice (and not very lost at that). though, when we stopped at a pub in, carlow, i think, to get directions to trinity well (supposed source of the boyne. drinking from it in june, which i did, is suppossed to grant the gift of poetry) we found out that a fun game for the local delinquints was to turn road signs around.
the best directions we got were from the bru na boinne visitor's center to the b&b we were staying at: (best read with a lilting brouge) "you take a right out of here and travel down the road. you'll pass an old burnt out mill. then you'll reach a spot where the trees hang over the road like a tunnel and the sunlight comes dappling through the leaves. it's on your right just after that; you can't miss it". |
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if ever vacationing with tqm or twif, don't let them drive. |
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at least i can drive stick. |
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Truth is greater than fiction. The next year we were in the Loire Valley, also in a Renault.
Instead of the stop lights being up high and on the other side of the intersection, the stop lights are often much lower down, on the side of the road and before the intersection. Bad habits kicked in and I'd often stop at about where the light was, so I couldn't see it.
I asked her to tell me if it was green. She looked and said it was. I pulled into the intersection and nearly got killed. Made many enemies that moment.
I looked at her with bright angry eyes and said, in a less than quiet voice - "you said the light was green!" She responded, "I was talking about the grass!"
Sigh. The truth is, she was talking about the grass.
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| you never take responsibility for your actions! |
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(i kid, i suppose.)
well, you're one-half of a dynamic duo. |
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but hey. I did take responsibility here - I said I was stopping too far beyond the light due to my "bad habits"!!!!!
We were in Chamonix with that Renault Manager, from the first story.
I planned a "romantic" picnic hike on one of the many paths up Mont Blanc. We bought baguettes, some cheese, and a picked up a half-size bottle of white wine. Being the terribly clever thinker I am, I went into a nearby shop and bought myself my first swiss army knife, complete with scissors and a bottle opener - rugged individual that I am. It was only fitting I be equipped with a Swiss Army knife, and I was quietly pleased that I bought mine just a few kilometres from the Swiss border.
We hiked. We picnicked. The bottle I bought was a screw top. These events serve as buoys for my memory. One leads to another, and the gaps fill themselves in with thoughts that had been, for no particular reason, abandoned long ago.
That evening we sat in a riverside restaurant and ordered Fondue Savoyarde - rich in cheese, and rich in wine. The river, being in the mountains, was raging. We asked for a table on their veranda right by the water. It was so beautiful. As we ate the alcohol kicked in from the fondue, and from our glasses.
She felt it first. I felt it a couple of minutes after. The world was spinning. And everytime you'd glance at the river, the world would spin a lot faster. Half way through the meal we had to stop and get away from that damned river. It was as if we were seasick while on land.
Our hotel was a couple of kilometres away from the centre of Chamonix - mostly straight uphill. It was an unpleasant walk that evening.
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